Michael ([info]zeppo_marx) wrote,
@ 2008-06-12 11:01:00
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People.....
People......Dammit, they're everywhere!

Yeah, OK, so that's hardly a revelation. I've just never been one to take too many pictures of them - well, besides of the family. I grew up a shy child. By shy, I mean "would not speak to ANYONE at nursery school - including the other kids". When you are as retiring as that, you tend to keep a very small circle of friends. People who, for whatever reason, managed to break through the barriers that shy people erect and who you then become inseperable from. Oh sure, I found my place within some of the social groups of school, but it was generally through access from a more gregarious friend, and these groups became the small places where I eventually would find myself comfortable.

It took a lot to get over shyness - much of it conscious work. It took finding jobs that forced me to talk to people. Retail and bartending mostly. It took taking a course on public speaking wherin I got to learn that it is, in fact, impossible to die of embarrassment. And via those means my circle of acquaintences grew exponentially. My circle of close friends, however, did not. That element of privacy that shy people cherish remained. Moving into technology has had a reversing effect on this. My circle of acquaintances shrinks. My circle of close friends also as the demands of familly life let some of these relationships wither and drift away.

But the shyness still manifests itself in so many ways. Taking pictures of strangers, for example, I find a daunting task. Best done unnoticed. I had to detour to work the other day, and passed by a soup kitchen. The wealth of interesting visual characters there was huge. I paused, put my hand on my camera, and then drove away when the light changed. Didn't take a shot. I mean, what if one of them noticed me?!!! Hell, they might throw me a stern look or something!

Take Rob. Or [info]ruralrob to many on my friends list. He's one of my oldest LJ Friends, and we've met for lunch at least once a year for a while now when he comes up to Ottawa for some of his work with the Canadian AIDS Society. It's always a pleasant affair at the same Indian food restaurant. I always invite him to come out and visit the family for a BBQ, but his schedule is too tight. He always invites Steph and I to drop down to NanookVille for a visit, but on those rare occassions when we get a weekend away from the kids we always head to a swank hotel room for a little adult playtime instead. And we always talk about how we need to find an afternoon one of these years to go shooting together. That doesn't happen either. But it's always a good visit with good food and good conversation.

And after all that, it still took me until this year (yesterday in fact) to point the lens at him. I shot two frames. I had to take the second - the first one was out of focus.

Rob

These two? Well hell, you could have danced around 'em playing a tuba and they wouldn't have noticed. Young love and spring fever make for an all-consuming state of mind. OK, I can take a shot of them....from 100 feet away. Behind a tree.

Spring Fever


This guy? Safely asleep. No problem....I'll shoot him from 40 feet. You know, in case he wakes up.

Game over

I wish I worked a little closer to downtown so that my noon-hour wanderings could focus a bit more on shooting people. Force myself to take those shots as they present themselves whether people notice me or not. Fact is that there isn't much around here, unless I want to document the various shapes and sizes of the asses of joggers running along the river. An interesting project idea.... but no. But I think I might try and change the trajectory and focus of my noon wanderings this summer. Stalking wildlife is still, for me, the best way to shift focus away from everything else in life and give me a moment or two of mental vacation, and shooting people will not give me that at all - so my wildlife shooting won't change. I just find myself regressing in my comfort level at being around people, and I need to nip that trend in the bud.

For starters, I figured I'd try and sneak up on myself while I was otherwise distracted. It was darned hard to do, but I managed it.

Self Portrait

Yeah, OK, that was gratuitous. But I still try and post at least ONE pic of myself each and every year. I'm sure that there is at least one or two new friends around here that have no damned clue what I look like.


So my summer photo project is to make sure that I get at least one good picture of a complete stranger each and every week. That may not sound like much to most people, but for me it's a pretty big stretch.

Let's see how it goes.



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[info]niyabinghi
2008-06-12 03:59 pm UTC (link)
Heh...it wasn't till reading the rest of your entry that I realized you ment you and RuralRob go 'shooting together' meant photography, not guns ;)

That's a great pic of you! And heh --- glad you were able to sneak up on yourself.

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-12 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Ah, those differences in cultural assumptions! Mind you, in some parts of Vancouver the phrase might just as likely be assumed to be related to IV drug use....

But thanks.... it was a total shock to me to see me shooting myself! ;D

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[info]brendamom
2008-06-12 05:27 pm UTC (link)
We should take a poll on how many people out there taking pictures are actually shy. Love the Rob photo and your self portrait and gee, even the Bun Grabber!
Pictures of strangers...oh dear, says another shy one.

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-12 07:26 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. Every journal needs at least one bungrabber..... ;)

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[info]fivecats
2008-06-12 05:46 pm UTC (link)
nice photos of rob and of yourself, sir. shy as you may be, you're still quite the photographer. :)

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-12 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Why thank you! And really, it's not as if birds don't often show their disapproval of my interest either....so I don't know why it's different with people. It just is.

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[info]victory_rose
2008-06-12 06:31 pm UTC (link)
I know it sucks and all, but I find it comforting that others are in the same boat as I am (so to speak). I just can't do people.

A smiling Rob is a rarity, and it's always good to see the one normally behind the camera as well (I'm recent enough a reader of your journal that I'm not sure I knew what you looked like). ;-)

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-12 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Well, I'm far more colourfull in person..... ;)

Shyness is, indeed, a real crippling factor to deal with in many situations. Which is why I work on beating it back as much as I can. IT's always there, but I handle it far better these days.

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[info]finn_lily
2008-06-13 08:07 am UTC (link)
Excellence! I love that shot of yourself - have you set up a studio or something?!

The more I read (erm, watch) your entries, the more I do want a longer lense. Now with the €100 spare from a sold bed, I think I know what fund that goes into!

I'm pretty much the same. Being behind the camera, I do get a good excuse for not needing to be in front of it... But I'm shy of others too, not just myself. (Note to self: Get that new lense; it'll reach further without the need of pushing the camera on strangers.)

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-13 02:05 pm UTC (link)
A studio? I wish! But someday.... ;)

And I actually want to get more comfortable closer up with people. Picking them off from a distance is doable, but most really good shots of people are taken fairly close in. However walking up to a stranger and sticking a lens in their face is a pretty awkward situation.

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[info]natalief
2008-06-14 12:39 am UTC (link)
I love the ones of you and [info]ruralrob the most but candid street photography of people took me ages to drum up enough confidence. Now I love it, though.

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-16 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I don't know why it feels so uncomfortable to take a picture of a stranger, but it does. Which is exactly why I need to push myself to do it. I've seen far too many shots that I wish I had been able to capture.

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[info]natalief
2008-06-16 06:31 pm UTC (link)
I think that the reason I was/am so uncomfortable with it is that I hate to have photos taken of myself - that would put me the wrong side of the camera lens! - and so I assume that everyone feels the same way. Also, there is a lot of angst in the UK (maybe the US/Canada, too?) about privacy and the right to refuse to be photographed and so on...

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-16 07:32 pm UTC (link)
Our laws are pretty clea-cut. If you're in public - anyone can take a pic of you. The term "public" is, of course, sometimes open to debate (You are not in public on your front lawn, but are on the city-owned sidewalk just two paces forward. Most commercial properties are not public, etc.)

However, if the photographer uses a picture which includes clearly identifiable individuals for anything to earn a profit - then those individuals can seek compensation.

I guess we haven't done too much tightening of laws as we don't tend to have too many problems with paparazzi or such things.

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[info]natalief
2008-06-17 12:49 am UTC (link)
You're lucky then! Shoot away!

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[info]stryder
2008-06-15 08:03 am UTC (link)
So that's what you look like? I would never have known that. Or Rob either, for that matter. And be careful where you go "shooting", someone may want a shot of whatever you have as well. Shooting can have a lot if different connotations, like alcohol, guns, cameras, needles, or IVs.

Always glad to know someone else in the shy boat. As a kid, I used to be really shy, but having worked in customer service, I am ale to talk to strangers more easily now. Taking pictures, if I had a decent camera, wouldn't be that hard for me currently. Just relax, have fun, and look for a good stranger picture. :)

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-16 04:22 pm UTC (link)
Actually, a shot of tequila would be a good thing the way Monday is shaping up so far.... lol.

Hope that you had a good Father's Day Stry.

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[info]ruralrob
2008-06-19 02:18 am UTC (link)
Ha, I only just saw this; that's a fabulous shot of you.

Brendamom mentioned a while back that she had noticed how many photographers were shy. Interestingly, I had noticed that about you at our lunch together, although like many folks, you've worked well to overcome it. But I've always felt it's an undearing trait in people anyway.

As for the people shots, I think you are going about it in exactly the right way, by going against your better instincts, plus using the usual tactics like shooting surruptitiously (at first) and with a long lens. I think it also helps if you really don't care what any one thinks, and that will come in time. Anyway, good luck with it!

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[info]zeppo_marx
2008-06-19 05:37 pm UTC (link)
Thanks Rob, I've always wanted to take better shots of people (besides my family). I just need to get off my ass and do the work required to try and get good at it.

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